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On 8/19/2014, totallytameexotics@yahoo.com wrote about jhbahr@nvc.net:
Visited this person's website which states some fairly false information about breeder/show catteries, stating they're "one step up from a mill" and disregards breeding for type (even though this IS what breed standards are put in place for) saying that health is disregarded in the show ring, which is completely untrue. All serious breeders will screen for genetic defects in their cats before breeding them and during the life of the animal while still maintaining breed standards for type and coat color - also basically all show cats need to be well socialized to participate at cat shows AND most breeders who also show are small hobby breeders who really get involved not "one step up from mills" yet on the same page they trying to sell breeder/show cats for $1200-$4000, though I can't imagine them being able to tell a show quality kitten from any other without participating in shows themselves and not taking into account good type in their breeding practices. They have no information about their individual cats on their website, such as Sire/Dam of their cats, where they came from, genetic screening on their individual cats checking for HCM or PkDef. No information about what they feed their cats or kittens. Definitely not a place I would spend big bucks for a "breeder/show quality" cat, being someone who also breeds bengals myself....
On 8/19/2014, totallytameexotics@yahoo.com wrote about jhbahr@nvc.net:
Oh wow.... It gets better yet! Visiting their "animals for sale" page I find some more interesting things here.... Selling silver kittens as "blues" no, that is a silver - sorry. Also "blue" kittens are not really "rare" as you put it - they are not purposely bred for due to the fact that they're an unacceptable color for the show ring... "Doll faced bengals" there is no such thing.... There are doll faced Persians..... No such thing as doll faced bengals, nice job on adding fancy titles to take in unsuspecting buyers. And yet it gets better still. Taking a snippet off of their website under their animals for sale page.... "Bengal kittens below have Savannah in there blood lines making them bigger then normal Bengal kittens." Okay, first of all, having savannah blood in no way guarantees any size difference what so ever. The only larger savannahs are the early generation savannahs F1-F3; F4 and lower generation savannahs are the size of regular domestic cats. The only thing having savannah in their bloodlines guarantees is that these are NOT purebred bengals, can NOT be purchased for breeder/show quality animals, can NOT be registered with TICA and will not meet breed standards. Good job on your back yard breeding practices! From what I can see, this breeder does not give a damn about ethical breeding practices when working with "pure bred" animals. They look to care about cash money with little regard for breed standards. From the looks of it they seem to be your typical back yard breeder mixing and matching different animals together and serving their mutts to you at high prices. GOOD JOB!
On 8/19/2014, totallytameexotics@yahoo.com wrote about jhbahr@nvc.net:
I would also like to add that I do not know these people at all and by all means they could be perfectly nice individuals. I am looking at this from a respectable breeder's stand point, who specializes in the Bengal breed and has been working with exotic felines for over ten years. What I see is someone selling so/so animals at top dollar. This speaks nothing about their animal husbandry (again I don't know them/haven't seen the way their animals are kept) what it does say (to me and I'm sure any other registered cattery who specialized in a certain breed)is that these people are not serious about their breeding practices. OR have no guidance by more experienced breeders to know what they're really doing/creating. There is absolutely no reason for a Bengal to have savannah blood in it unless you're cross breeding un-acceptable outcrosses by TICA's standards. I am not trying to put them down as individuals, but the breeding practices I see here are questionable. You could probably go to them and get a perfectly nice pet quality mixed breed animal, I'm just saying that it probably would not be the best place to go for a good quality pure-bred who meets health and breed standards.